Yeah, as long as you do not have to click the links I posted and as long you do not have to account for the things you say it's all fine with you eh?WarAngel said:Simplest yet smartest thing posted so far.
Strangely enough it has been on all official news channels in the Netheralands too. However I don't think you'd appreciate to have some videos and articles in Dutch.Joeku said:So, you are saying that we are supposed to believe a few underground fanatic websites that probably have no real foundational basis for their "information" as truth and gospel? Lmao...
Tens of thousands of rumors spread each and every day, and 99.9% of them are untrue. Don't just believe everything that anyone tells you.
Why would a superpower automatically be a good nation? The Soviet Union has been a superpower. China might become a superpower in the next few decades. I don't think those two nations are shining examples of how to have a good and moral internal policy and foreign policy, don't you agree? Being a superpower doesn't make it right to inflict suffering upon others.Joeku said:If America is sooooo horrible, why are we the only Superpower left on the earth? Sounds to me that you are just spiteful, along with half of the rest of the world. Go and shove it.
Like I said in the post above, it's been allover the news here. Somehow I shouldn't be surprised that your so-called 'free press' doesn't mention it, eh?WarAngel said:Ankh, to be honest, I think all the stuff you posted is madeup crap. Anyone can get a website and post stuff on it.
The only attacks so far seem to be comming from your end. You just do it a bit sneakier.WarAngel said:And for you to personally attack me for having an opinion? Reported.
A dude... said:China might become a superpower in the next few decades. I don't think those two nations are shining examples of how to have a good and moral internal policy and foreign policy, don't you agree?
Because they are either greedy bastards or desperate people. Either way, for the money they hope to earn in the US which they can't earn where they live now.Joeku said:I automatically believe sidsid, because he found that on the great "INTERNET!"
Again, it seems that you are just spiteful Ankh. There's no way that you can prove that "information" to be true. You are just one of those stupid fanatics who believes that all governments are a conspiracy. If we are such a bad nation, why do we have thousands of people immigrating here every week?
Joeku said:You can't say that America is so horrible if you've never even lived here. Our free press doesn't mention that "information" because it's total bullshit. How are we "inflicting suffering upon others?" Have we ever intentionally invaded another country without rightful cause (i.e. a threat or attack against us.) And after we have rightfully invaded or attacked such countries, we haven't ever just left them in chaos afterwards.
Learn your nation's history, mate.Joeku said:We've always stayed to help out. With that said, one final word of advice to you: learn what you are talking about before you say something.
Nationalism/Patriotism is not logical behaviour.WarAngel said:The only thing I've said so far is that if you're not an American, you wouldn't understand. That's an attack how? It's called Nationalism. I don't understand your Nationalism for your country (if you have any), just like you don't understand my Nationalism for my country. It's that simple.
I tend to trust my news sources a bit more then news agencies like propaganda-channels like Fox, yes.WarAngel said:And how do you know that your press isn't making it up? The media has a tendency to do that stuff. Or is it automatically true because it's on your news and not ours?
If you want to believe the bullshit on that website (still not a credible source in the least) then that's fine with me. All this talk about "Genocide" and "Terror Bombings" and "Political Subversion" is (if true at all) going on during a WAR or a WORLD WAR, not just committed for no reason. If you have been told all your life "America is bad," "hate America," "Americans should die," then there's nothing I can do about that since it's what you have been taught to believe. We Americans are perfectly happy, and no lies that spew from your mouth can change that. If an American isn't happy, there's nothing to prevent him/her from moving out of the country. As for the Palestinians (or whoever, doesn't matter they are terrorists) blowing themselves up in the middle of a crowd of innocent people for no reason, yes they are fanatics. I don't blame it on their religion, I blame it on what other people have shoved into their minds all their life. Now someone like you comes along and says it's wrong to stop such behavior? I am not going to take any part in the rest of this completely stupid conversation that spawned out of nothing but bitterness, resentment, and hatred. You can believe what you want to believe, but just because you believe that someone is evil just for living in a nation that you dislike, that doesn't make that someone evil. You may say that all Americans say that arabic people are evil because they are all Muslim terrorists, but that's untrue. Take me for example; I have many Muslim friends, and I don't think that they are terrorists or wrong for being Muslim. Seems to me like you are the one "spreading propaganda." Again, this is my final word in this conversation. I pity you Ankh for hating people because of their nationality, and I hope that someday you get a more open mind.Ankhesentapemkah said:Nationalism/Patriotism is not logical behaviour.
But I suspect you understand perfectly how Palestinian nationalists are capable of strapping explosives to themselves and blowing themselves up in some crowded place, right? Or are you going to blame that upon their religion? Tell me then, what is the difference between religious fanaticism and nationalism?
I tend to trust my news sources a bit more then news agencies like propaganda-channels like Fox, yes.
Joeku said:You can choose to believe that our media is controlled by the government, but you can't deny the fact that anyone in America is allowed to start a business of their own if they wish to, and that includes starting a media corporation.