Vorspire
Knight
Very enlightening, the descriptions and carefully detailed reasoning for your opinion is astounding, definitely more information than anyone was expecting.
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Will SOTA kill UO?
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Very enlightening, the descriptions and carefully detailed reasoning for your opinion is astounding, definitely more information than anyone was expecting.
It won't kill UO. The Official servers will run to the end of time on the tiny number of lifetime backers keeping them on lifesupport.
Plus there are members of the freeshard community that have to much invested in it to abandon it come what may.
That said I think the SotA devs are making great progress into making a game that appeals to both the old Ultima fans and the Ultima Online fans. I don't expect it to be perfect, but then UO certainly wasn't either.
For those interested I'm currently running a game giveaway to encourage more people to join up and pledge to support the development of the game:
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/f...rive-giveaway-pledge-more-and-win-games.8459/
Also got the go ahead to offer new backers founder status (early backer) pledges that give themselves a referral bonus, effectively netting you an $85 pledge for $40.
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/f...the-25-referal-half-price-royal-artisan.8393/
There are also some people offering founder pledges as low $22 on the player market place (these work out to be $60 pledges after using the alienware coupon).
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?forums/player-marketplace.73/
Note these deals are only good until April 6th (2 weeks from now), so if you are thinking about getting on board now is the last best time to do it.
I do hope you will consider jumping aboard as well. So far nearly all of the features that made both UO and the ultima series great have made it in. The dual map setup is jarring at first, but a lot of the features the devs have said it will make possible for the game gives me hope for it. My only concern for the game is the currently proposed combat system. That said the devs have said if enough players speak up and tell them that it just isn't fun enough after it's debut next month, they are willing to entirely scrap it and start over. That's why I hope as many classic UO players get involved now and make their voices heard next month. We need a good innovative MMO that raises the bar for a change and the combat will make or break it at this point.
Plus there are members of the freeshard community that have to much invested in it to abandon it come what may.
That said I think the SotA devs are making great progress into making a game that appeals to both the old Ultima fans and the Ultima Online fans. I don't expect it to be perfect, but then UO certainly wasn't either.
For those interested I'm currently running a game giveaway to encourage more people to join up and pledge to support the development of the game:
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/f...rive-giveaway-pledge-more-and-win-games.8459/
Also got the go ahead to offer new backers founder status (early backer) pledges that give themselves a referral bonus, effectively netting you an $85 pledge for $40.
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/f...the-25-referal-half-price-royal-artisan.8393/
There are also some people offering founder pledges as low $22 on the player market place (these work out to be $60 pledges after using the alienware coupon).
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?forums/player-marketplace.73/
Note these deals are only good until April 6th (2 weeks from now), so if you are thinking about getting on board now is the last best time to do it.
I do hope you will consider jumping aboard as well. So far nearly all of the features that made both UO and the ultima series great have made it in. The dual map setup is jarring at first, but a lot of the features the devs have said it will make possible for the game gives me hope for it. My only concern for the game is the currently proposed combat system. That said the devs have said if enough players speak up and tell them that it just isn't fun enough after it's debut next month, they are willing to entirely scrap it and start over. That's why I hope as many classic UO players get involved now and make their voices heard next month. We need a good innovative MMO that raises the bar for a change and the combat will make or break it at this point.
spiritnhonor
Wanderer
I've been a supporter of SotA since the beginning. I'm in the top five for most messages posted on the SotA forums, and I've been very involved in sharing ideas etc.
I have to admit that they listen to the community (for the most part), but as far as the combat system and their PvP system .... lol .... it will never wipe out UO.
FOLKS I HATE TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SUCH A SUPPORTER OF SOTA, BUT THEIR CURRENT COMBAT SYSTEM AND PVP DESIGN IS SO BAD YOU SHOULD HANG ON TO YOUR UO ACCOUNTS AND YOUR FREESHARD ACCOUNTS. SERIOUSLY!!!
Unless they get a major fix to those systems SotA will be just another game that is hear and is gone and UO will still be going and going and going.
I don't want to ruin anybody's hopes for SotA, but if you're hoping for a UO2 it's NOT happening. Seriously!!! And I pledged over $800 for SotA, and I want it to succeed. I'm just being honest from my heart here. SotA has a lot of potential, but it's not going to take the place of UO because it's an entirely different game. It's a different game period.
FYI The combat system is like magic the gathering where you get random skill cards dealt to you, and their PvP system is incentive based and you gain PvP items, and pvp specific skills (if you want to flag for PvP that is). PvP is still optional which can be a good thing.
I have to admit that they listen to the community (for the most part), but as far as the combat system and their PvP system .... lol .... it will never wipe out UO.
FOLKS I HATE TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SUCH A SUPPORTER OF SOTA, BUT THEIR CURRENT COMBAT SYSTEM AND PVP DESIGN IS SO BAD YOU SHOULD HANG ON TO YOUR UO ACCOUNTS AND YOUR FREESHARD ACCOUNTS. SERIOUSLY!!!
Unless they get a major fix to those systems SotA will be just another game that is hear and is gone and UO will still be going and going and going.
I don't want to ruin anybody's hopes for SotA, but if you're hoping for a UO2 it's NOT happening. Seriously!!! And I pledged over $800 for SotA, and I want it to succeed. I'm just being honest from my heart here. SotA has a lot of potential, but it's not going to take the place of UO because it's an entirely different game. It's a different game period.
FYI The combat system is like magic the gathering where you get random skill cards dealt to you, and their PvP system is incentive based and you gain PvP items, and pvp specific skills (if you want to flag for PvP that is). PvP is still optional which can be a good thing.
spiritnhonor
Wanderer
I encourage EVERYBODY who's interested to go and share your viewpoints on the SotA forums. BUT check out the forums first to get a picture of the game before investing lots of money otherwise wait till it's released!!!
Here's a couple of threads to check out on the forum to know I'm not making this up:
PVP
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/pvp-death-current-thinking-megapost.8247/
Combat and Magic (and yes even spells come up randomly with the deck system!) Current thinking...
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/magic-combat-and-crafting-skills.3937/
PLEASE IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN UO AND SOTA SHARE YOUR IDEAS ON THIS WEBSITE SO THEY BUILD THE RIGHT GAME. WE STILL HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE SURE SOTA IS BUILT RIGHT.
Here's a couple of threads to check out on the forum to know I'm not making this up:
PVP
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/pvp-death-current-thinking-megapost.8247/
Combat and Magic (and yes even spells come up randomly with the deck system!) Current thinking...
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/magic-combat-and-crafting-skills.3937/
PLEASE IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN UO AND SOTA SHARE YOUR IDEAS ON THIS WEBSITE SO THEY BUILD THE RIGHT GAME. WE STILL HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE SURE SOTA IS BUILT RIGHT.
Blackstorm
Sorceror
I don't think it could kill UO. UO is something special. I backed SotA nevertheless.
I don't like how the game looks like. It's not that i say it must be highend graphics, no - i like uo and other games without the best graphics. It's more the style and the feeling of the world. It's the same with most of RG's games. He seems to have a different "taste" than i have. I don't say that mine is better, but i don't like most of the buildings of Sota (the Housing looks terrible for me). In uo the problem was not that big, because it wasn't in 3D.
I don't like how the game looks like. It's not that i say it must be highend graphics, no - i like uo and other games without the best graphics. It's more the style and the feeling of the world. It's the same with most of RG's games. He seems to have a different "taste" than i have. I don't say that mine is better, but i don't like most of the buildings of Sota (the Housing looks terrible for me). In uo the problem was not that big, because it wasn't in 3D.
SpiritnHonour you might be interested in Garriotts response to my query about the state of the combat system here http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/408742/page/4
I've also been discussing it with Starr Long in the Dev+ SotA chat. After R6 they are more then willing to make the adjustments needed to make it work if/when we tell them it doesn't "after" trying the model they have planned. It's mostly Chris Spears and Starr that need convincing so if you have particular requirements let them specifically know what they are.